shadoh Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I don't think it is a problem to breed true, as everything I have been reading suggests that it is a dominant trait. The thing is that here in Oz, you mostly have VTs showing this trait. You can cross the VT into a HM, CT, HMPK line, but will take several generations to get the desired tail type back. That is where a lot of the problem lies - correct me if I am wrong here, but not many people are developing and working on their own lines. On the forum with the exception of Ness and Bettarazzi's fish, there aren't too many people taking their lines any further than the 1st or 2nd generation. Whatever the reason, I think that's where the problem lies. I, myself would love to develop a line or two but struggle to get an F1 spawn off the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 I hate to jinx it, but this young guy is my latest show hope. He is the only male of the spawn to have his Fathers colouring. Formwise, although he has a lot more growing to do, he is a definite improvement. Next generations, I will be looking at cleaning up the fins by trying to minimize the bleeding of the copper colour into the fins. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4wGrgaxG9U&feature=youtube_gdata_playerThis female and couple of matching sisters turned up in my Royal Blue/Black Lace spawn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyFOtoDSSGE&feature=youtube_gdata_player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 That boy is stunning. Wish I noticed him today when I was around. Very well done. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 It wasn't until I was waterchanging today that I noticed just how good he is looking. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Here's some I prepared earlier Phil, If you are reading this, this is the male I was thinking for you... I love these guys. Not a bad HM distraction from my PKs. I doubt I'll do any more HM spawns, as I want to concentrate on other things. Just an indication of the quality Jim's (JHA) fish can produce. Bump me, I have a couple more...PS: I have a couple of people lined up to breed these guys, so the line won't end with me. If I couldn't have found anyone wanting to breed them, I would have kept them going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thanks mate The next two are the F1 from the original Orange Marble spawn. I had a couple of Copper Red males in that spawn, so I decided to spawn a male to a metallic sibling sister to try and get more. The boy turned out to be an egg AND fry eater, so after 2 or 3 spawns, I removed the eggs for a fatherless hatch. 6 survived. These two are the first to be jarred. I think this is the only copper red male... The female is starting to get thicker dragon like scales. Her grandmother was a marble dragon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2littlerevheads Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Omg I want that Red boy jarrod , great fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thanks Jennie - hopefully in the future I'll be able to establish a line of them. Let's hope he isn't an egg/fry eater like his dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lachie1998 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 nice HMPK jarrod goodluck with spawning them :applaud: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thanks Lachie it will be some time before I spawn them (although the female is full of eggs). They are tiny. About slightly more than half a full grown Betta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_and_a_day Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 woah, that girl is huge! you're feeding her some of Busman's steroids aren't you? congrats with the gorgeous fish popping out of your fish room, you must be so proud with the quality of your fishy kids :cheer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thanks MT, I am VERY proud... Good news (for me anyway!) ...I found a copper Red female in the growout I'll fish her out when I get home from work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowfish Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Now THAT is a fish... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betta_splendors Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 lol missed the thread update some how buuut that male you have for me looks wicked thanks mate you will have to lemme know when you have the line of those copper red's goin and ready to sell me a pair. that male copper/red is stunning :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Can't wait to have a tank of copper reds growing out. It will be a couple of months before they hit a spawn tank They are tiny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 That HM pair I got off you are small but she has dropped eggs???? Going to wait a little while before I attempt them but if she has eggs, that means they could do it?? Not sure if he would be up to his role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Technically they should be able to, but I would suggest waiting till they get bigger. If she keeps filling with eggs, reduce her exposure to males and skip a feed or two - she'll reabsorb them. Besides, you are spoiled for choice with other fish to spawn at the moment :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 This is one of my newly sprouted HM boys. At first I thought that he was Turquoise, but the body colour has deepened to a more Royal Blue. Under light he looks Royal Blue, but looks a Turquoisy/Teal colour with the lights off. He certainly looks different to the other Royals - could he be metallic Royal Blue and the others not be metallic? I'm confused... Under Lights... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIiluOhFf6Y With the tank light off - Royal Blue on left Metallic Royal Blue (?) on right - hard to get true colour on camera, the guy on left looks more steel, but is definitely Royal IRL. The boy on the right has a more green irid with the overhead light off. I think you can at least see a difference between the 2 in this clip... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MpFewmgs18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 The "females" I was so excited about in my HMPK Red Copper spawn have now sprouted. The only fish from this lot I am not 100% sure of the sex is the runt - the only gold copper. Unsure whether I should spawn back to the mother or get some fresh blood into the line (perhaps a red copper DTHMPK if I can find one) I got a few spoonheads in this lot. Not good to breed, but will make nice display fish for someone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGnnbMKsh7Y This is my feisty HM Marble pair. I have to say, these late sprouting males have superior finnage and the HM girls are stunning when jarred and "trained". The boy has a slightly wonky ventral, but I am tempted to enter them in the pairs caregory in the September show Sorry about the reflections - it's late and cold and I just want to go to bed... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp4u38CMAMo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Still unsure how many I will keep and what I will sell on... I've parted with 3 pair to some people who have said they will keep the line going How does one choose what to keep? I can't seem to part with my babies this time around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Some great looking fish mate. Can't believe that you are publicly stating what you want to enter in the show.........that's always been a bad omen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2littlerevheads Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 very nice pair jarrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briztoon Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Great looking fish Jarrod. Awesome work mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 @Busman, did it occur to you that that pair are being used to throw everyone off the scent of what I'm really entering, or perhaps they are a sacrifice to the Betta gods? Thanks Jennie :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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