BettaObsessed Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 That this fish and this fish are the same fish? The second photo was taken today, the first one was taken last Sunday. If I hadn't seen it myself I wouldn't have believed they were the same fish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanger Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Um, I'm stupidly new to this whole game but I'm sure others are scratcing their heads too... How? Is it genetic or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanagi Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 It's a young fish that's colouring up and beginning to sprout. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaObsessed Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) I have no idea, I'm guessing its something to do with the light. If they weren't jarred and labelled I'd be thinking they were 2 different fish. This is also the only one that has such a pointed dorsal. I'd like it very much if he would colour up back to how he looked last weekend :) Edited April 21, 2011 by BettaObsessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournebetta Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Yan, I would have said so too... but they're taken in chronological order....... Betta Obsessed, are you SURE that darker colourful shot was the first one taken? I'd be worried if it were the other way round! -Ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaObsessed Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Positive. I looked in wehen I was doing water change tonight and had to double-check the numbering on the side to be sure I was looking at the same fish. He still looked pretty dark when I did Monday's water changes. Just looking back through the photos. 4th April he was light coloured, 12th April he was looking darker, the top one above was taken 17th April, the bottom one was taken today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournebetta Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 BettaObsessed, I have a one of my 9 spawn that are probably just a bit older than this one- who has shown pinched fins like this, she was like that for a few days before I noticed she had something resembling velvet. keep a VERY good eye on this one, throw some salt and perhaps some IAL if you have it - even bettafix (can't hurt) I would anticipate loss of colour and loss of volume as a sign of something wrong Safe than sorry (etc etc) -Ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbites Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Quite different lighting conditions it looks too.... never trust a backlit photo.... and depending on the angle of the shot the iridescence will show up differently as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournebetta Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Absolutely Wayne, but it sounds like it might be a difference IRL.... I have to say I'm still not convinced it's the same fish - unless that anal has shrunk? And I think I'm counting 8 rays on the top fish's dorsal and 11 on the second - couldn't be the same fish.... surely. okay..... it's waaaaay past mightnight and I'm about to turn into a pumpkin. Stop staring at rays Ness -Night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Is it just me, or does he look smaller or has lost weight in the second photo? Odd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournebetta Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Count those rays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Looks like his fins are beginning to clamp up and there is colour loss from stress. Do a water change and treat for velvet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaObsessed Posted April 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 When he swims he pulls his fins in then spreads them again while he's "gliding". The shot was taken in the inbetween time so that is probably why the fins look clamped. Here is another shot taken at the same time where he was just sitting in one spot, not swimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournebetta Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Well if you're convinced it's the same fish, I'd follow Razzi's advice. Good luck! -Ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaObsessed Posted April 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 I really cant see how they could have swapped jars. Its not like they could have gotten out and into another jar. All of my jars are numbered so I know which one I'm looking at and can keep track of their growth and colour changes. I have moved him to a bigger tank so I can keep a better eye on him and not have to lift him in and out to check on him. Is it possible that this is a marble thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 His ventrals still look clamped to me. I'm presuming you didn't have one that looked like this beforehand. And you don't now have what was previously a pale fish that has somehow coloured up. Regardless of which fish it is, it now looks like this. And even if you hadn't shown what he looked like previously I would have said this fish looks ill. Fins slightly clamped, body underdeveloped compared to eyes and head. This is not the marble effect in action. He appears to have lost colour as a result of stress. But as his keeper you're best placed to determine whether or not that's likely to be the case. I'm just making a judgement based on that photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanagi Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Yan, I would have said so too... but they're taken in chronological order....... Oops, missed that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaObsessed Posted April 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 He is in another tank being treated for velvet. He may well have been stressed because I had taken him out of his jar and into the photographing tank. There is no way it could have been another fish unless they had somehow managed to swap jars by themselves during the week but they'd both have to be really good jumpers with great aim for that to have happened. As for looking under developed. Yes he is, the whole spawn is. These are 13 week old fish that are the size 7 week olds should be. This is because I wasn't feeding the right things at the start and wasn't doing water changes but they have more than doubled in size in just over a week so they're getting there. I will go through the photos of the others and see what they look like in regards to clamped fins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournebetta Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 What's the go with this one? -Ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaObsessed Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 His colour has come back and the fins are unclamped. I will probably take him out and put him back in his own tank tomorrow. I would have done it today but there still seems to be an issue with his dorsal. When he points it up, the back end of it seems to twist slightly. Its not clamped but kind of twists around slightly to the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_and_a_day Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 that sounds really odd O_o congrats on the speedy recovery though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaObsessed Posted April 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Matches its owner then Thanks. I check them pretty much every day so looks like I caught whatever it was before it got bad. Apart from him losing colour and the clamped fins there was never any sign of any illness. Maybe he just wanted a holiday in a bigger tank :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenGirl13 Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Does that make you a Twisted Sister?.... :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaObsessed Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 :lol: Something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Good to hear that he is feeling better and that his colour came back (liked him better with the more vibrant colour anyway!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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