shadoh Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Just a quick question - does anyone still breed the old style dark cherry red coloured bettas any more? All I ever see these days are extended reds. Am I just showing my age? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I tried some but failed. Those LFS Bettas just don't want to breed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Extended red refers to the gene which spreads red all over the fish. All fully red bettas are therefore extended red. What you're referring to I think is the light bodied red that is a result of introducing cambodian into the line. Males often don't have a fully red head and females usually display the cambodian pattern. Sometimes the fry will all start off cambodian and then slowly develop red on their bodies as they get older. Breeders introduced cambodian into red lines in order to reduce black on the scales. However it should be possible to develop good extended red fish by using dark bodied (ie not cambodian) fish. We need more people working on red in Australia. seems to me that we are all attracted to the dark iridescent and metallics first, the butterflies and bicolours come next and the reds and yellows come a sorry last. If you're interested in working on reds this would be good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Yes, I do mean the light bodied reds. I must admit that I am usually drawn to the metallics, butterflies and marbles. If there is a gap in people working on reds and yellows, perhaps it is something I should be looking into doing. With the threat of batch testing looming over our heads, it is things like this we should be organizing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Well the hobby should be fun so you shouldn't force yourself to work on a strain just for the sake of it. But yes the threat of batch testing does change the way we look at things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Believe me, it wouldn't be a chore I've noticed a lack of dark bodied reds out there and toyed with the idea of getting a line happening. The fact that there aren't many people working on them here in Australia is the impetus I need to look seriously at following my idea through. Off to auquabid to have a look around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I must admit that I am usually drawn to the metallics, butterflies and marbles Guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Not the best form, but colourwise, this is what I am talking about... http://www.innergeek.us/blog/2008/05/betta.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanagi Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I intend to work on red and orange based fish. I don't have any extended reds yet but I do hope to get some in future. Preferably giants, though. At the moment though the reddest thing I have is a pair of red dragon HMPK. My LFS frequently gets the red colour I think you're talking about though, in veiltail males. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 colourwise, this is what I am talking about... The black which outlines each scale on the body is what breeders were trying to eliminate by introducing cambodian. It would certainly be interesting to see if it's possible to get the colour of the fins to appear on the body without the black edging on the scales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 It's funny. I've never seen anything but Veilies in that dark red. Perhaps I'm going to have to start with a VT male... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volvodriver Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 you know, i saw a 'darker' red double tail (i thought it was halfmoon until closer inspection) at Jodie-Lea's. It wasn't completely as dark as the ones you're talking about but it could be a good starting point. I like the reds because when i was a kid my parents bought me a betta and it was almost exactly like in that link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bec Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Is this the colour you mean? http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettashm&1289413812 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) I thought it was more this colour: http://deblogs.depaul.edu/JessicaBurgwald/PublishingImages/Red%20Betta.gif Edited November 10, 2010 by Lilli pending copyright query - see later post by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 @volvodriver: You had to go and tell me that... Double tails are my other weakness. I'll have to wait until friday afternoon to go down and see if he is there. @Bec: He is a lovely fish, but I am looking for something closer to the colour Sarah posted... @Sarah: Thanks that's close to the colour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 That's good. Hopefully those DTs will be there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bec Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Oh yes, that is a much darker red isnt it. I'll keep my eyes open for you, Bec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 They are quite darker. They are often seen in LFS.. but I don't think they are the greatest breeders. I'll keep my eye out for you too. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Sarah, is that someone else's photo? Just a reminder to everyone to please be aware of our rules re copyright and bandwidth regarding photos and only post someone else's image with permission, and by hosting it on photo hosting account (ie, don't just put tags around it where it is originally posted, as it uses the bandwidth from the other person's site). For now I have change the photo to a link only. Please repost as an IMG if you've got the copyright owner's permission to do so. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Oh MY! So sorry - I've read thoughly the board rules and always try to follow. I'll go and find the photo owner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 I had a fish just like that before.. never took a photo. Wish I did. Fish was always so pathetic looking. Yes, Fish was his name. We had a chocolate one named Chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Looking on Aquabid for you.. ever seen a red dragon veiltail? http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettasvt&1289522846 More serious.. Starting to get there. Male That'll do for now. Must go and do piano practice now. Already too late.. silly me, I do get stuck on the computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 I got a beautiful pair of Red Rocket Crowntails from someone at Fishchicks. Both really good looking fish. Have bred once (first time for them and me) and lost most fry. Still got a few going though. Will try again very soon. LOVE THE REDS :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Looking on Aquabid for you.. ever seen a red dragon veiltail? http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettasvt&1289522846 Thanks for those links Sarah. Actually, I have seen a red dragon VT - I have one! Good luck respawning those crowntails Busman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Pretty fishy Shadoh! :drool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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