fishbites Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) I emailed them after I was told I could sign up as an 'approved' breeder.... and asked.... What authority do they act under? Or what international or national organisation do they have registered? Also... if I were to surrender excess stock to 'carers', what experience and abilities do the carers have when it comes to catering for growing betta fry? And do they raise their own live foods or force the fish to eat unnatural processed foods that they would not normally eat? Haven't had a reply yet.... about 3 days and waiting.... doubt there will be a response.... As for intelligent information.... if they can't be bothered to use a spell check for important correspondence from their group... how can you be confident they'd bother to look up and find out suitable care conditions for betta fry and adults they 'rescue'? Edited October 24, 2010 by fishbites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 The thing that really gets me riled is the disrespect directed by naive, inexperienced newbies towards aquarists who have been keeping and breeding fish longer than these kids have been alive. I've kept bettas in various sized containers and observed their behaviour and monitored their health. I think I know what's cruel and what isn't. I first started keeping fish more than 30 years ago. Sure, I've had breaks away from the hobby. But before anyone outright accuses me of being cruel (as some have on my YouTube channel) they had better ask me first what my thoughts are on cruelty. I'm not saying I know everything about keeping fish but to assume that I haven't given it any thought or haven't learnt anything in that time simply shows that YOU haven't given it any thought. As usual the people who set themselves up as morally superior are intellectually inferior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killimike Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Oh why oh why won't someone think of the children!!! I second everything Lilli and 'Razzi are saying. I started to type out my sentiments, but found I was just repeating what they and others had already said The representations made by this group are laughable. Particularly, the communications ppl hav recieved form this SFCA ar a grate reed and really encourige me to take them very seriusly :eadshake: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 LOL. Reading that last line I thought you'd had a stroke for a second there Mike. *lol* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billphil Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 I hacve remained silent but I now need to protest. Why are SFCA just after Betta breeders - my killifish, Apistogramma and Pelvicachromis pairs are probably in just as much inhumane conditions as my Bettas are (given relative fish sizes etc). So all those breeders of the other stated species should be labelled inhumane monsters also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neffy Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 yea its so silly, they only protest what they think they know and don't research anything like their latest video on iridovirus testing says "all the fish in the shipment will be destroyed, not sent back or placed on antibiotics" I may be wrong here but i haven't found any info on how to cure iridovirus it doesn't seem as simple as giving the fish some meds because if it has the virus the only way we know is cause its a blended soup now. If its healthy in the same shipment as a positive fish your medicating for something you cant tell is there or know if its taken effect (even if you can medicate for iridovirus). I'm all for shock value to promote more research into if iridovirus is already here and ways to test without killing the healthy fish ect but based on fact not lies and assumption to make something sound more horrible. They only made the video because members here alerted them to it otherwise they would be as blissfully unaware as they are about breeding betta & dripsystems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 I can't add to anything that is not already mentioned, you are right, but they do have a good intention (like Lilli said). Do they actually know about this topic? Did somebody already give them the link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbites Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Unfortunately... well intentioned idiots are the cause of a lot of the problems in our world.... search throughout history both recent and distant and you'll see plenty of examples.... in most cases there should have been an approval process before their parents were allowed to breed.... As for SFCA.... no facts, no substance, no authority, no experience.... sounds like a Biosecurity Australia review in to imports doesn't it! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Reading that last line I thought you'd had a stroke for a second there Mike. *lol* *lol* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becki Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Threads like this and the humorous responses are why I love Ausaqua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Me too Becki. The Ausaqua people are great. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killimike Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Couldn't help myself! :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 I remember now that when this group first started (sometime this year I think.. maybe June) that the owner put up a link onto a comment section of a Betta site (which is in America). A few joined.. I didn't. I just went & found the link (by asking the Site owner ) and it is SFCA. Hmm.. I guess I forgot about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delyall Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) I still have no reply to my email after asking them why the feel the have the authority to judge all betta breeders/owners... *sigh* seems more and more like a childs hissy fit. Oh well So long as no one here takes them so seriously :P Edited October 29, 2010 by delyall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbites Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 probably some kids school project.... the talk of painting banners.... their very poor spelling.... their indignant responses.... you're probably close to the mark there delyall!!! Oh well... hopefully they'll find another cause next year.... maybe something like Larger tins for Tuna...... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 From their Facebook page... : "SFCA will be visiting the Sunshine Coast Animal and Pet Expo tomorrow to ensure all fish are healthy and to check out what cruel products fish suppliers are selling." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 SFCA will be visiting the Sunshine Coast Animal and Pet Expo tomorrow to ensure all fish are healthy and to check out what cruel products fish suppliers are selling." Phew.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 My heroes!!!!! I wonder if they'll be wearing capes??? .....and two pairs of underwear... One pair outside their pants and the other on their heads!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbites Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) ooohhhhhh...... now you're NEVER going to be an approved breeder, Paul!!!!! :rofl: Edited October 30, 2010 by fishbites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 I guess you can stop collecting all those 20 litre tanks Paul, cause they'l never let you in their little club now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Meh.... I have no capacity to be socially appropriate/correct right now. I'm going on 2.5hrs sleep and the mental filter is switched off! S. tupid F. ish C. lub A. matures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbites Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 :rofl: that was rather restrained Paul! Now tell us what you really think :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracey6565 Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 WOW I've been missing out on so much! Why does all the fun stuff happen when I'm offline??? I've been trying to catch up on what's been going on with everyone and I came across this thread. I haven't laughed so much in ages. I'd like to thank the architect for putting a toilet so close to where my computer is sited or I'd have embarrassed myself a number of times whilst reading this most amusing of threads. I love being an Aussie! 'Taking the P*ss' is a hilarious birthright don't you all think? Or should that have been "doant ewe orl fink"? to all you funny b*ggers on AusAqua :thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted November 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Further to what Neffy said, I have watched that video now (came up in a search I was doing for Razzi's): You can't treat a virus with antibiotics. Antibiotics treat bacterial infections. Unless there has been a huge medical breakthrough I missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 You are right Lilli! Woah.. :giggle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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