maddzvk

plus some are doubled up eg BKKS is the same as KK

Keep in mind that's a lists some of them your unlikely to use or you may use differently (eg wine red shrimp I call red wine shrimp an I wouldn't bother trying to abbreviate it )

A few arent listed etc etc

this is some acronyms around for shimp.
some species the acronyms are rarely used or theres no acronym available. eg riffle shrimp...

AFS = African Filter Shrimp
AS = Amano Shrimp
BB = Blue bolt
BBS = Blue Bee Shrimp
BCS = Blue Cherry Shrimp
BCS = Brown Camo Shrimp
BKKS = Black King Kong Shrimp
BPS = Blue Pearl Shrimp
BS = Bamboo Shrimp
BS = Bee Shrimp
BTS = Black Tiger Shrimp
BPS = Blue Pearl Shrimp
BTS = Blue Tiger Shrimp
CBS = Cystal black shrimp

CS = Cardinal Shrimp
CRS = Crystal Red Shrimp
FRS = Fire Red Shrimp
DAE = Darwin Algae Eater
DAS = Darwin Algae Shrimp
DGS = Dark Green Shrimp
DRNS = Darwin Red Nose Shrimp
GBS =Golden Bee Shrimp
GGGS =Ghost - Glass - Grass Shrimp
HS = Harlequin Shrimp
KK = King Kong
MS = Malaya Shrimp
NACs = North Australian Chameleon Shrimp
NHS = Neocaridina Heteropoda
NS = Ninja Shrimp
OBS = Orange Bee Shrimp
OEBT = ORANGE EYE BLUE TIGER SHRIMP
OSS = Orange Sakura Shrimp
ODS = Orange Delight Shrimp
PS = Panda Shrimp
PZS = Purple Zebra Shrimp
RCS = Red Cherry Shrimp
RGFS = Red Gold flake Shrimp
RTS = Red Tiger Shrimp
RTS = Red Tupfel Shrimp
RS = Rili Shrimp
SPS = Shadow Panda Shrimp
SBS = Snow ball Shrimp
SS = Sulawesi Shrimp
STS = Super Tiger Shrimp
TB = taiwan bee
TTS = Tangerine Tiger Shrimp
TS = Tiger Shrimp
WBS = White Bee Shrimp
WES = Wine Red Shrimp
YCS = yellow cherry shrimp
YS = Yellow Shrimp
ZS= Zebra shrimp

i've seen serkan's nothobranchius guentheri photos they are stunning!
and from someone you'll have eggs in no time

species we have im still getting userd to the actual names rather than common...
blue panchax (aplocheilus panchax)
gold panchax (aplocheilus lineatus gold)
werneri killifish (aplocheilus werneri werneri)
dayi killifish (aplocheilus werneri dayi)
blockii killifish (aplocheilus werneri blockii)-gorgeous little cuties they remind me of sparkling gourami a little
aphyosemion australe gold
epiplatys annulatus (clown killis)
Aphyosemion bitaenatum lagos

im hoping to get a few more in the next few months, splendopleure, ijebu ode, gardneri again (probably makurdi) maybe striatum and australe chocolate too. spose we will see how i go for tank space

there a nice little species a good intro to killifish. theres some real nice species around serkan's the killi man on here or davo and me and jimbob keep some too

welcome lamby!
theres actually some fantastic fish keepers from WA floating around les and kev being two of them.
plenty of info here(especially about bettas;)) and we are a friendly bunch!
enjoy the forum
Maddie

Welcome Jenny

plenty of option if microworms didn't start

try vinegar eels the culture doesnt need as much checking and they are great for your fry(ragged yolk or liquidfry is also good for freshly hatced fry in a push)

As for bbs hatching is always best but some times that's difficult

Substitutes are decaps. Baby brine/instant bbs, golden pearls, fine dry foods or even frozen Rotifers or bbs (blister pack) defrosted and used sparingly

Plenty of info on here :)have a look around and hopefully we will see spawn log or your bubs soon :P

Hey roydy thanks for answering

I quite like some of the hybrids especially because sourcing anything is so hard especially especially starting out

We have red lines which have fry as of today as well as getting gold leopard and black bar this weekend ish will be seeing kev in wa at the end of the month too so I look forward to seeing his n class endlers, wild bettas an apistogramma collections

????

ive asked micheal to delete this thread.
besides him no ones answered my initial question which was "what hobbyist have in australia" as i would like to get some
i didnt think it was so hard to say "not many pure endler about plenty of hybrids though.
I know ...(n class in wa with kev, platinum pink with roydy, blackbar with greg) are about maybe ask them. and endlers usa has some good info though it might take some searching to get the info you want"

plenty of info but its all over everywhere.

googles let me down this time.
and no ones actually answered with whose keeping what even though thats what i did ask

a good soak and scrub if its still there look into options for the filter clean.
its mostly just built up minerals (calcium scunge) we find water and a scrub works well otherwise you can try vinegar or methylated spirits from memory but the worst come off pretty easy so dont stress.
with fish plenty of options since its an alright size tank just remember it will be much easier if you match fish to your water not the other way around. i think youve mentioned adelaide has relatively hard water though which will suit guppies/endlers/livebearers well .

and we wont just copy of seriously fish like some other factsheets ive seen
i have data to contribute RE: hobbyist's conditions for breeding and fry growth (yep i still track it)

Welcome Lisa

its usually a mix depending on timing we currently have 5 fancy spawns growing out so in a few months you'll see them guys about
next month will mostly be imports

Only online as a hobby business

Well have heaps of fish mid to late feb though (literally 100+)

The female tip alot of American breeders told us.

Since females are short fin any faults will be exaggerated on the longer finned males (shapes, bent rays, rough edges, unbalanced fins etc)

There's plenty of really nice fish in aus the main sources are

Jodilea(someone) and aquabid imports

The IBC international shows (all international entrants are auctioned or sold off)

Breeders especially those who show fish as they'll be actively striving for well balanced stunning fish

Even shops can have nice bettas (a lot of the bettas taken to whole salers are runts or excess to needs so there can be some stunning fish) the lady who won the reserve best of show at the Vic IBC show last year was hand picked by me and James (lodobetta- we handpick all our fish) for under $20 :)

welcome ronny. i saw these guys on facebook (all of us seem to get around a few pages )
they are stunning best of luck with breeding. theres plenty of info on here never be afraid to ask any q's either theres heaps of spawn logs too

geez hachi slow down on the betta crtique hes just saying heyy all

thanks for that ive actually found it really hard to find the info i want on endlers so im a bit every where.
had guppies before they thrived sold there fry to the LFS which got me out first betta breeding tank
that was a while ago though im very excited to get some endlers though but yes wanted to see what other people were keeping a sthe ones in shops are very limited

i know most are hybrids
i though black bar was one of the native wild types (N class strain)
like i said i mostly want to see what others are keeping in aus
if i get some id probably prefer to get them from hobbiests since the ones in shops are severly limited and dont hear much bout them

ai has gold leopard, red line and neon tuxedo atm and alot of people have black bar
just tryng to see whats around

just taking stock
who is currently keeping endlers??
what species are you keeping? (and classification? if possible)
i'm thinking of getting some endlers but obviously they arent something every LFS stocks and AI's had pretty limited species coming through so thought i'd see what other keepers have at the moment

Hi Ricky

Welcome to the forum

For info this is the right place there's 1000's of posts from the past few years plus all the members who are online. Plenty of info and sources around hopefully you have success breeding bettas there's heaps of spawn logs (I should update mine actually) and some very worth while subgroups enjoy having a gander around the site!

Maddie (ps met you at the last SSS meet but we are from Melbourne)

lucky then ray branching and caudal shape will help then with telling SD/HM from VT like in the link dylan gave

plakats are the hardest to tell in my opinion

im still really new at it though (but im trying)

i agree with razzi you need to look at fins besides the caudal as well.
length, shape and raying/structure will all give you the information for 'guessing' the tail type (sometimes its easier than others)
as you pick up the terminology and look at more fish you will begin to be able to tell the difference more
and may be able to guess the tail type better
but unless you know the genetics of the fish or its an outstanding specimen there is usually some ambiguity of tail type.
practice makes perfect though so start spawning and staring at fish