maddzvk

If it is to house mae bettas I would go with clear with black removable dividers so you can flare the boys each day

I'm gonna say not the first one

bettas have a habit of jumping in with neighbours and ending up with no fins and I feel a waterfall setup leaves water levels high enough for this to happen a lot both to the neighbours besides and below ...

besides that your on the right track with the other two

We Did one with perspex

its in three parts but can become six

problem is if the fry are to small they sneak into the other compartments

still its pretty alright for the mid age grow out...

Oh them Tetras are so pun-ny

thanks jan

creepers eating my fish eyes I assumed their

mouths would be too big and my Tetras too fast

not to mention they hang in different parts of my tank

guess the ghost knife needs to move but I don't plan on getting rid of it I love thier erratic swimming way to much

We have a community tank

planted plenty of hiding spots has ghost knife,female fighters, neon Tetras and hockeystick Tetras in it and some bristlenose.

anyway we've had one or two Tetras who are missing an eye.

weve also had a hockey stick who wound up

dead missing both of his.

tried to take some photoes a bit hard since there so fast and shiny.

tetra on right is missing an eye

Same tetra swimming along

anyway any idea what fish is doing this my partner is convinced its the ghost knife and wants to get rid of it but there so fun to have :(

We take time to think ofna reply sometimes

welcome to the forum enjoy looking at all the lovely fish on here. Hope snudge enjoys his new home and you talk the hubby around to getting him a friend or ten

Since your in Brisbane look into fish chick for super good bettas and guppies or you have the Betta Australia group which is good if you can get along to there meetings imnsire you'll meet some lovely people

good luck with your fish keeping

Youre in the right place then and in for a treat

if you didn't do so last weekend venture down to the next Vic Betta meet in June

To meet some fellow fish fanatics and some pretty bettas

there's also the EDAS auction coming up incase you wanted to get some plants/equipment/food/fish

(i read Melbourne and u wad like yes local fish fan)

Sara already has a photo of one of her fish up he won third place for halfmoons in the last Vic Betta meet

Haha I find spawn logs on here are the worst the parents are so good looking and the Kids are so cute and so cheap compared to aquabid(after import costs etc aquabid can be very pricey) and a lot are local. NSW has a bustling Betta scene :)

Give it time you'll MAKE the desk space.

yeah the genetics are quite full on especially since you've got form and colour to try figure out

my head melts when they start adding in irids, opaques and metallics for colours but ill get there one day...

there's some amazing fish out there just you wait you'll start looking around on here and realize you want every fish there's a picture of pretty much :P

taenna

where abouts are you located?

I studied biomed as well and its probably one of the reasons i enjoy bettas so much.

wait till you see some of the ones around they are spectacular :)

haven't seen one of these but is defs interesting thanks for the share :)

damn snails are mighty good at cleaning tanks

if you have a light use it less/take it away from a window if its in sunlight a lot

also clean water/tank as well as you can and if you want you can always try algeafix or something similar

Cograts on the new shop danielle!

hey trada

i've seen some of your fish on the facebook group (i think youve spoken to my partner james a few times)

anyway they are lovely fish.

cant wait to see more of them!

hope you enjoy ausaqua

yeah i know.

people often ask about wheres good in "insert area name" but it would be handy to have a list that was pinned.

we visited something like 5 pet shops/LFS today (for some food for our communal tank and some girls mind you) came back home with neither of these things but with IAL, bristlenose and another cave instead.

not unproductive but there are some good ones out there and some not do good ones i'm personally blacklisting our local one cause i want to hit them every time i look at their display fish.

yeah if you have a good light the plants will just go crazy

we had a rather bare looking tank and within the space of 2-3 weeks we are trying to figure out what we can do with all our extra plant just cause it all shot up so much so fast.

i love black ghost knives we have two small ones (15cm). they crack me up whenever they explore the tank.

sorry bout the troubles with your reef aquarium hopefully it fixes up and you dont have any more losses.

welcome to the group everyone is absolutely lovely on here :)

i made two other posts on bettas one in betta critique (couldve gone into standards but didnt want to ) called 'dumbo standard' and one in genetics 'breeding dumbos'. mostly its a mix of other forums, internet skills and some personal knowledge compiled. I think it makes sense to have a distiction between the pectoral sizes but doesnt mean it will be practical or widely adhered too so go figure... doesnt need an IBC standard. like james said with half moons and over half moons it the same gene but there is definately a difference and doesnt only HM have an IBC standard since OHM is 'undesirable' anyway?

From reading i think some of the overseas breeders feel that way about having these smaller finned fish being sold under the same name as ones with fins almost twice the size.

oh also there is no IBC standards for dumbos yet cause its so new.

but a fair few breeders in malaysia try to differentiate between them.

http://www.arofanati...d.php?p=9064913

more proof of people trying to define the two in malaysia

i thought i was making it up but hard core googling backed me up better than i thought it would.

i know someone posted a longfin HM 'dumbo' the other day and it made me really sad cause its ears were tiny hardly any larger than normal it was sold to them as a 'HM big ear" but they thought dumbo and big ear were the same thing so the called it dumbo anyway got me thinking cause theres some pretty dubious 'dumbos' eg these two http://z7.invisionfr...rs/ar/t5612.htm

oh also there is no IBC standards for dumbos yet cause its so new.

but a fair few breeders in malaysia try to differentiate between them.

i wrote another post in betta critique actually ahs more pictures (if you click the links ) anyway

one of the big ear/dumbo breeders in Malaysia is our master, Bobby Chua. From what I understand, currently he is also developing new strains of this big pectoral variety. Below are some attempts from him to define "Big Ear" and "Dumbo". Bear in mind that even Bobby himself mentioned that this is for discussion and nothing is set in stone ie. this is not the absolute definition nor an official standard. However, I feel that if most of use Malaysian hobbyists/breeders can agree to this definition, we can widely use this proposal as a guide to define "Big Ear" and "Dumbo". And if we have a Big Ear/Dumbo class in Competitions, we can refer to this as a guideline to set our standards.

taken from http://www.bettamalaysia.com/mybb/showthread.php?tid=380

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150788985823766&set=o.189679344393346&type=3&theater

OK I cant find where I read it

but a while ago when I was looking at a betta breeding forum

someone said that 'big ear' and 'elephant ear'/'dumbo' both referred to enlarged pectorals but were not the same

has any one else come across this?

cause also on aquabid i had a look and some breeders are using both terms but the big ears do seem to be smaller (if they use both terms)

for example these two are from bettaakapes

one is named big ear (the first) and the one is named elephant ear/dumbo

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettashmp&1361683227

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettashmp&1361683164

anyway do people think they are a term for the same thing or do you think breeders have tried to seperate the two 'classes' of larger pectorals

(i know theres no dumbo standard, but there are tentative ones around on the malaysian forums and im noticing alot of the big ear/dumbo are far off them. im gonna start a thread on these tentative ones tonight too)

Victorian Betta has a website

alternatively hassle ness (melbournebetta on here) cause she organises it i believe

also on the Victoria Betta website it has a brief intro to tail types and colours

all the fish you posted were pretty accurately described both type and colour wise

I'm a fan of plakats even though they are more aggressive their colours just seem to be so much more wow.

(in fact that marroon/white dumbo you posted we have an almost identically coloured Halfmoon plakat)

as for tanks/storage since bettas are from more tropical regions (thailand) they do much better in warmer water (around 24 roughly) so for melbourne weather especially winter you may need to consider heating

also for permanent homes they may need larger than 1L

in the short term they can stay in them but they are much happier in larger tanks (at least a few L)

it may be easier and happier for the fish to consider dividing a tank up so each fish has a larger quantity of water that is filtered and heated more regularly than just by the water change

sorry for the long reply

There's plenty of help available on this forum

and good luck with your fish :)