melbournebetta

Interesting topic - and you're right, the mutation is very new, and still to be worked out in terms of the problems that are inherent with the mutation.

As far as I understand it has several "colloquial" terms used to describe the fins, but Dumbo/Elephant Ears/Big Ears all refer to the same style of mutation.

There is no class in it for IBC as yet as the newness and the irregularity make it impossible to judge.

I also wonder if they will develop a class for it at all, as some of the mutations don't warrant acknowledgment (i.e. combtail is not accepted, nor would elephant ears be)

It'll be interesting to see.

Also interesting to see how this trait breeds out - we still haven't had anyone (to my knowledge) have a successful big ears x big ears, thusfar I believe it to be recessive.

Am i rite?

Dunnoh.

-Ness

Yan, this is awesome news! (Crap about the housing situation) but GREAT that you're getting your perfect fish.

It's like me wanting a sensible car, for years I had the worst versions of the worst junk piles of the worst variety.

Now I drive a corolla

and it's the most bland, boring sensible most fantastic car in the world.

because it works

irrelevant?

Yes, it's been a long day.

NICE FISH

when you shop online

i get just that little bit more lonely at work

*sniff*

I really like that tank - love the plants that grow out of the water.

Do you know what they are?

-Ness

I'm all about it.

Sounds awful, but I'd rather have 20 fish I can keep than 80 I stunt (done it, won't be doing that again)

Methods are good to discuss, generally freezing is the easiest - I steer clear from clove oil as I'm stupid enough to accidentally dose my water conditioner container.

I freeze and throw them on the garden in the morning.

-Ness

I really like using some of the frozen foods, AI do a range including infusoria, baby brine shrimp and daphnia....

if you can't get a hold of live foods (always best) the frozen foods have very little nutrition loss.

Beefheart is pretty fatty and not naturally occurring (nor is BBS mind you)

personally I like Microworms for the first little while, then up to BBS, then BW and adult BS as soon as possible - accelerate them into the next "stages" of food and keep water quality up and you'll have exceptional growth.

(:

You just can't break some girls

(:

Welcome, it sounds like you have your tanks and hands full!

Turtles are pretty cute, but I'll stick to the under-water varieties of tankmates...

Good luck with the 7foot!

HEY TFB (My name is ness and I love an acronym)

The Rivulartus are amazing when they colour up, I've got a juvi pair and I just love them!

Are there any/many aquariums out your way? I grew up in Foster & will be heading back for the regional show (doggy high jump contender!)

Welcome to the forum, you sound well and truly addicted, we don't have a 12 step program... but just lots of encouraging peeps

-Ness

Until you have water results it's hard to speculate - I'd take a cup of old water out - do a major change and serious gravel vac.... you can test both waters to see if there's any ammonia/nitrite build up in the old water.

External canister Eheim is gold, one of the few filters that are built without an in-built life-span.

Probably look at a 2215 or 2217.

Sorry to hear about the crash, it's always devastating when the equipment lets you down.

-Ness

It's true.

We won't help.

No, we will, but we wont.

Tell your wife that the alternative is heroin, that shifts perspective & usually works.

We will help with fishy things, we like those things, and generally as a rule, fishy people are a bit of alright too.

I've just "downsized" from 300 litres between 12+ tanks, down to 150 litres in one tank.

Samesamebutdifferent.

There's something sort of magic (once you get hooked) about the fish gig.

Let me suggest greedily that you get a photobucket account, and use it to link and share photos.

We like photos.

We're pervs.

-Ness

Pete - You don't do things by halves do you?

A large community that size would be amazing, we got to get the next generation hooked early I say!

Photos would be great, feel free to throw around ideas of what to stock it with too.

You should have a peek in at Subscape, the store has some seriously handsome Aquascaped 4/5/and 6 foot planted tanks (:

Best of luck!

-Ness

Yeah, well you can cut your teeth on anything really, and maybe a few VT spawn trials is a good idea - but if you're serious about raising fry and jarring and water changes and waiting and waiting and waiting for them to grow

get good ones

Where abouts are you Azza?

Best place to start is by clicking through people's spawn logs, they generally tell you everything they're thinking and doing.

And alllllll the mistakes and hot tips are in there too.

Any of my spawn logs in my signature will be testament to the learning curve that is Betta breeding - it's ace.

My primary advice:

GET AMAZING FISH.

then breed, you MIGHT get an amazing fry out of the lot.

(:

....actually not really, but a little bit, sort of.

More hours in the day and I might bet a better person - however I wanted to say that I think about you all of the time, you. Forum, you.

I used to do multiple updates a day, I used to take fifty photos of the same pinhead fry and squeel about it all day long.... you might just be relieved that I'm not doing that anymore.

That's okay...

But I miss you.

I'm sorry forum... we had a good thing going for a while there, but things changed.

It's not you, it's me.

I have a new job you see, I work here:

And as for the fighters, well I do a lot of water changes, and they all get live food twice daily, but... none of them are in my tanks.

Infact, forum, while I'm explaining our break-up.... I should probably tell you....

I don't have multiple tanks.

Just one.

Don't think less of me, I'm moving in a new direction - just for a little while so I can clear my head.

These are the things I gaze into the tank and see now....

Henry is a Peacock Gudgeon.

Malvern is one of 5 Blue Juvinile Angelfish

There is often black mongrel photobombing by the Bouncer.... (still)

So I hope you understand, why we can't be together, like we used to.

One day, I hope.

We can try again.

x Ness

That last one's rool noiiise

Hey James,

Welcome to the party - sounds like you've had some success, that's great! We're nosy buggers, so set up a photobucket account and link pics so we can perve.

I work at a local fish store (Richmond, Subscape) We've got some shiny Halfmoons in that I'm trying not to buy... I might hit the boss up for some HM females too.

Anyways, welcome - always great to have more breeders around, so I don't feel so bad about taking a break.

Check out the Vic betta shows and ASV too (links in my signature)

-Ness

I hate to be horrible, but if he's "going out the back to get better" .....listen for a flushing sound.

He has his fins very dramatically clamped and I would suggest he's got serious fin melt.

Yes, lovely - dragon coverage (possibly thick metallic or dragon) but I would tip the water is too cold (yes I see a heater too, is it at 26? is it turned on?)

Make sure you're buying healthy fish - and this means that the LFS bring in healthy animals, and know how to keep them healthy (there's no point buying a problem)

He must has mustard/black colouring - which is very dramatic to look at.

If he were well, he'd be a nice fish - his swim bladder looks bloated also... can he swim straight?

*shrug* you can go down the "rescue" path if you want (I wouldn't)

but just know that every purchase you make from a LFS that are irresponsible and can't keep healthy animals - is inspiring them to buy more and perpetuate the issue.

Goodluck!

-Ness

Allow me to be the first to make a free-willy crack, and a welcome... Hy.

-Ness

You'll be right!

Glad they're going good for you - seems they're eating

x

I'm going to be awful and ask why you have hatched eggs and hadn't thought what to feed 'em... but good on you for trying to spawn.

Live food is key in these early days, I'd suggest you start trying to hatch brine shrimp now so you get the hang of it. (It's everyone's biggest problem on the first spawn)

You'll have a bit of loss in numbers too, so keep live food up and water changes are your new best friend.

Goodluck

Jarrod! that's incredible, he's totally the same colouration as Mig (I rememberrrrrrrr)

Great to see some cool "accidents" happening in your tanks!

It looks really sweet - will you stick with the neons (I love them) love it!

The glosso shouldn't take long - but it's a "how long is a piece of string" question.

Keep the lighting down to 6 hours if you can to avoid the algae bloom.

-Ness

Royroy's runts are bigger than my mature males!

Aww little giant girly looks so happy - they were lovely fishies

Water Temperature: 17-24 degrees celsius

pH Level: 6.6-7.6

General Hardness: Soft-Moderate

Reproduction: After mating the female carries her eggs underher tail. The young disperse when they are fully developed.

Feeding: Omnivorous and Herbivorous (grazes on algae). Willscavenge on most fish foods.

Ideal for nano tanks and planted tanks (ensurefish tankmates are of similar small size). Please note: avoid the use of copperbased treatments if invertebrates are present in the tank.